[Lapg] 7 Foods/Plants The Healthiest People Eat

sasha karlik sasha at greens.org
Wed Sep 1 19:12:48 PDT 2010


Dear Lynne,
Well, as a human being I will respond to your question, although it
shows that you did not carefully read my original message.

If you would take the time to read the entire email, you would see the
link I already included, along with the entire entry for Lycium
(wolfberry).  Apparently, that was too much trouble to read that far
down the page, so here it is again...

>> http://www.jlhudsonseeds.net/SeedlistLO-LZ.htm

here also, is the direct hit for either lycium or wolfberry, on the site
search...

http://www.jlhudsonseeds.net/cgi-bin/search/search.pl?nocpp=1&Match=1&Terms=wolfberry

I hope that helps.


(Just a note:  JL Hudson is neither "my" site nor "my" company.  They
are a non-GMO seed bank, operating in Northern California for nearly 100
years.)







On 09/01/2010 02:27 PM, lynne latham wrote:
> I searched your JLHudsenseeds site and found no goji berries or wolfberries. I have searched in vain for these seeds and finally had to order them from Tibet-not very sustainable. If anyone knows of a local source it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
> 
> Lynne
> 
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sasha karlik <sasha at greens.org>
>> Sent: Sep 1, 2010 4:42 PM
>> To: Dennis Pilien <dpilien98 at yahoo.com>, Lapg at arashi.com
>> Subject: Re: [Lapg] 7 Foods/Plants The Healthiest People Eat
>>
>> Something I have suspected for several years, seems to be strongly
>> affirmed if not confirmed by something I just read, following a link on
>> Wikipedia to a very well written (2007) article at Tibetinfonet.net.  If
>> your curiosity is piqued after reading my short, irate rant, please read
>> the complete article, at tibetinfonet.net.  The first paragraph of that
>> article appears below the link.  The entire article is several pages
>> long and worth the read...
>>
>> The real secret is that the name "Goji Berries" was created by cunning
>> marketeers, to fraudulently sell a Chinese ag product, (Lycium)
>> wolfberries, as somehow "Tibetan" or "Himalayan""Goji Berries".  They
>> are neither Tibetan, nor are they really "Goji Berries".
>>
>> Here is another 'secret' these marketers would prefer to keep a secret:
>> Chinese wolfberries, even while grown and shipped with pesticides and
>> fungicides, are often labeled and sold as "Organic", "Tibetan" or
>> "Himalayan", and voila!, the price magically doubles or triples, as that
>> pesky "Chinese" problem somehow magically disappears.
>>
>> If you like "Goji Berries", try making a little trip to Chinatown.  You
>> can find pallet loads of Chinese wolfberries at more than a dozen shops
>>from about $5-$10/lb.  Please do not buy them to re-package or resell as
>> somehow Tibetan.  It's sleazy, dishonest and disgusting to steal and use
>> the good name of Tibet to cover up something that likely has toxic
>> pesticides and fungicides and was probably produced by the mostly
>> slave-labor market practices of the PRC.
>>
>> To perpetuate this deception only to inflate the profit margin is the
>> epitome of greed and really sucks.
>>
>> In my humble opinion: The marketers who pull this kind of sh*t anywhere
>> should get their individual and collective ass kicked off the planet.
>>
>> Thanks to Dennis Pilien for bringing up the question-- I'll bet you buck
>> that these babies are already growing somewhere right here in North
>> America.  (anywhere between Panama to Alaska...)
>>
>> Order all the best heirloom seeds easily from one CA based seed bank:
>> JLHUDSONSEEDS.NET
>>
>> "The best solution is a permaculture solution..."
>>
>> Sasha Karlik
>>
>> http://www.jlhudsonseeds.net/SeedlistLO-LZ.htm
>> LYCIUM (LISH-ee-um, LI-see-um, or LYE-see-um)
>> SOLANACEAE. 'MATRIMONY VINE', 'BOXTHORN'. Ornamental shrubs, often
>> clambering, or with graceful, arching branches. Valued for their
>> funnel-shaped flowers and bright scarlet berries. Good for hedges,
>> wildlife habitat, erosion control, food and medicine. Some of the 100 or
>> so species are hardy in the North, and the pendant types are especially
>> attractive cascaded down a wall. Good by the seaside and for fixing
>> sandy banks. Easily grown.
>> —Lycium chinense. (b,h) LYCI-12. Packet: $2.50
>> Oz: $14.00
>> 'CHINESE WOLFBERRY', 'KUKO', 'KO-CHI'. Purple half-inch flowers June to
>> September, followed by attractive scarlet 1/2 - 1" long berries, August
>> to October. Graceful arching shrub to 12 feet, with bright green 1 1/2 -
>> 3" oval leaves. E. Asia. Hardy in the North, and "It is a splendid sight
>> in autumn gardens, when its slender branches are laden with scarlet
>> berries."—Yashiroda. These branches are much valued in Japanese
>> flower-arranging. Germinates in 1 - 4 weeks. The young leaves are eaten
>> in salads or boiled with rice as flavoring, and are also drunk as tea.
>> The berries are eaten and a medicinal wine is made from them. Leaves,
>> root and fruit are all highly valued in Chinese medicine, as "prolonging
>> life, improving the complexion & brightening the eye."—Pen Ts'ao.
>> —Lycium exsertum. (a!,h) LYCI-22. Packet: $2.50
>> 'WOLFBERRY'. Profuse small lavender flowers followed by abundant bright
>> red edible berries. Spiny shrub to 3 - 6 feet. Low deserts, Arizona &
>> México. Very drought resistant. The berries were eaten in great
>> quantities by the Indians, fresh, cooked, or dried like raisins. Good
>> wildlife shrub. Germinates in 2 - 6 weeks.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.tibetinfonet.net/content/update/124
>>
>> Under the exotic name 'goji berry', a variety of Lycium fruit, more
>> commonly referred to as wolfberry, has taken the booming global 'health
>> food' market by storm. Although the berries do possess exceptional
>> nutritional qualities, many of those marketing 'goji berry' products
>> claim the fruit has miraculous properties, such as curing cancer and
>> increasing longevity; claims that have been exposed as fraudulent. What
>> has been often overlooked however is that the aggressive marketing
>> strategies supporting the goji craze rely heavily on portraying the
>> berries as a Tibetan product. This Special Report shows that the
>> purported Tibetan origin of goji berries is bogus and relies on the
>> misappropriation and distortion of western research on Traditional
>> Tibetan Medicine (TTM). Moreover, there are no indications that the
>> berries that have swamped worldwide markets have actually been grown
>> commercially in any Tibetan region of the People's Republic of China
>> (PRC). Rather, they originate from regions at the outer fringes of the
>> Tibetan Plateau where they are grown by Chinese Muslims (Hui). Apart
>>from obscuring the provenance of the berries, Western goji traders
>> present standard stereotypes, implicit assumptions of cultural
>> superiority, and politically correct sanitisations, which neatly reflect
>> the politically dominant image of Tibet in China. Many companies
>> distributing goji products appear to cynically take advantage of the
>> naivety or serious health problems of western consumers, as well as of
>> inaccurate Tibet images in order to market a Chinese crop as a Tibetan
>> product without providing any apparent returns to Tibetans. The example
>> of the goji berry demonstrates that, unless transparent structures are
>> established within and outside the PRC to verify the authenticity of
>> Tibetan products, the name of Tibet is destined to be misappropriated as
>> a convenient label that profits non-Tibetans.
>>
>>
>>
>> Superfood #2: Goji Berries
>> Move over carrot.
>> This little, bright red berry from China is one of the most potent
>> sources of beta-carotene and vitamin C. These are both fantastic
>> antioxidants.
>>
>> Goji berries also contain 18 amino acids and over 21 minerals which give
>> them a serious power-punch to anyone’s system.
>> Goji berries help stimulate your body’s natural human growth hormone
>> which is critical in anti-aging and longevity.
>> You can only get them dried in the US, so don't expect to find them in
>> any produce section. Some health food stores will carry them, but you're
>> best bet is online.
>> Goji berries are a fantastic snack--eat them just like you would
>> raisins--to add to your superfood arsenal and are a great addition to
>> any herbal tea.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 09/01/2010 09:37 AM, Dennis Pilien wrote:
>>> 	
>>> Hi All:
>>> Here's a thought: These are the healthiest foods/plants to eat. See
>>> attachment for more details on each food/plant nutrient. My question to
>>> any of you is "Do you know where I can get any one these locally?" I am
>>> searching online for seeds or cuttings or techniques to raise or grow my
>>> own.
>>> I want to grow them in my mini-greenhouses/ponds this fall/winter as
>>> needed and/or in my own garden or community garden plot. I want to use
>>> permacultural agriculture, aquaponics/mariculture and experimant in the
>>> city a bit. I hope it works out. I might also try a Chido Govero-style
>>> of agriculture also (small-scale, high-end product, permaculturally) of
>>> course.
>>>  
>>> The 7 foods/plants the healthiest people eat are: *Cacao, Goji Berries,
>>> Maca, Raw Honey, Spirulina, Sea Vegetables, Pumpkin Seeds*
>>>
>>> 	
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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