[Scpg] Biodiesel may be the problem

[m r h]

  Hi, My name's Mario.  I have a background in the libertarian labor 
movement, cooperative housing, and the industrial implosion fantasy club.  
As opposed to sudden "industrial collapse", implosion could take place over 
hundreds of years due to birth rates well below replacement level , resource 
scarcity, or a combination of both and others I haven't mentioned, and could 
entail a much softer landing for us humans caught up in places like Los 
Angeles...  So as you can imagine I've been most interested in the alarm 
bells being rung by former geologists that have worked for Exxon, Shell, BP 
and all the other major ecocidal criminals.  I'm sure you've read that they 
are saying that peak oil production could happen in this decade due to the 
fact that new giant fields just aren't being found, especially not at the 
rate we are using the existing ones.  With increasing demand and a forever 
decreasing supply, oil prices would skyrocket throwing us into perpetual 
recession (Gross Domestic Product contraction), a reworking of the global 
corporate system to one of local production for local consumption, less 
overall material consumption, etcetera.  In that framework nature could 
begin to heal itself from this terrible disease we now know as capitalism.

  However my hopes were put off last week when I read about biodiesel. Not 
only is it a renewable resource that can provide the fuel that keeps this 
machine running, but it is economical. In one report I read that the net 
energy gain is about 1 for 3.  It takes about 1 gallon of veggie oil to fuel 
the tractor, the processing of the soy, the transportation to market, 
etcetera to gain 3 gallons of veggie "biodiesel" . My immediate thought was 
"Great! (sigh) Once gasoline hits 3 or 4 dollars a gallon, biodiesel will be 
very competitively priced in the market.  All land that has not been spared 
the wrath of the plow will be converted to growing soy for food and car 
fuel: more environmental destruction with less smog."  However I just read 
that if all the soy that is currently grown in the US per year (a lot) was 
redirected from food to biodiesel production America would have enough of it 
to replace its oil consumption for about 2 days.

-Mario
Failing Auto-Warranty Telemarketer
http://dieoff.org  "In short, the end of oil signals the end of 
civilization, as we know it. "
http://iww.org  "Fire your boss."
http://www.vhemt.org/ "May we live long, and die out."



>From: "severine fleming" <svf02000 at pomona.edu>
>To: <scpg at arashi.com>
>Subject: [Scpg] biodiesel and resource center
>Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 12:49:41 -0700
>
>hi there.
>
>My name is severine fleming, I am  the coordinator of a 2.5 acre (200 fruit 
>tree) permaculture site and childrens education center in claremont 
>california, working on the campus of Pomona College.
>
>I am currently doing a biodiesel outreach tour of northern california while 
>compiling an online resource for young organic entrepreneurs in association 
>with www.growfood.org
>I was hoping to learn of your activities and perhaps to interview some of 
>your leadership council, I would also love to share with you some 
>information on alternative fuels and especially vegetable oil fuel system.
>
>Please do contact me.
>svf02000 at pomona.edu.
>I would be most grateful.
>Farm out.
>Severine
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